there are a great many reasons it becomes difficult to "prove" to active jw's that the watchtower society has had an amazing series of crackpot teachings, beliefs and assertions over the years.. first off, the availability of old publications is problematic.
the society has cleverly sucked them out of the libraries of local kingdom halls.
older collectors are often dead or apostate.. ebay can provide steep asking-prices.. but--a few years back, i discovered the availability of reprints in quality self-published form on lulu.com and amazon.. these reprints are beautifully done and easier to read than an old, moth-eaten, mildew-stained yellowy tome from the early era!.
Sorry, the average JW is afraid enough of older JW publications that were printed by the Society, they are never going to seriously look at books that are obviously and clearly reprinted editions from some place called Lulu. Obviously these are tools of apostates, they should be burned on sight.
The only people buying these are exJWs doing research for their own amusement.
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who are they?
tell me about it.
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I'd argue that it's STILL a Pro-JW site. Most people here love JWs and are looking for ways to help them break free from the Watchtower Society.
Yeah, ponder that for a minute.
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i received this email from my dad today.
i have not clicked on the link or responded, nor do i intend to.
i accept that i am not going to change his mind, and i know he is not going to change mine, so i choose not to participate in debate with him in an effort to retain what little relationship i have with him.
For what its worth, his email seems to be much less confrontational and manipulative than many others we've seen posted here. And the information he is presenting is at least somewhat relevant and from a mainstream media source. Usually its more like, "OMG a two-headed baby was born in Albania! The end is so close!!!!"*
You are probably correct though not to make a debate out of it, like you said, enjoy the relationship you have with him, even if its not perfect.
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*no offense to any two-headed Albanians on the board
i know there has been threads on jw's using facebook, i thought i would post some responses from jw community i got in an email.. .
this was presented for discussion.. .
a co in our area (rochester) said that there would be no one being.
Nancy Drew, that's an awesome post!
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hey folks, so i made this video as a response to some of the youtube apostates about my vast apostate army recruitment video.
i'm getting overwhelming comments and messages regarding it and a couple people have called it "the apostate manifesto".
i figured i'd post it here for everyone to check out, i thought you all might enjoy it.
What is 11/5/17???
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i left town after the court case for a fresh start , it was 18 months before dubs knocked on my door , so i told them why i was not interested in their message , aswell as the watchtower payouts in may 2007 ,with gag orders attached , they seemed quite shocked by that but warned me to be carefull what information i read on the web !
i told them that in america they do not make up the news !
they seemed quite shocked about what happened to my child but said it would have ben an isolated case !
So its an isolated case? Does that mean that the situation was caused by elders not following JW policy on dealing with child abuse? Or did they follow the instructions exactly as laid out? If the answer is the former, then were the elders disciplined for their mishandling of the situation? If its the latter, then apparently something is wrong with their policy. So which is it? That's what I'd be asking the brain-dead dubs.
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everyone seems to be making decade lists about their favourite books, cds, films etc.. what do you think are the most important, notorious, shocking, entertaining or unexpected wt articles of the last decade that anyone interested in jw'ism should have read?.
The article from The Guardian exposing the Watchtower's connection with the UN.
And of course the response published in the Watchtower explaining why they did it. Oh wait, they never did bring it up in any of their publications, most r&f JWs still know nothing about it.
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last night i got a call from a chap in the uk, who recently left the jw's.
he wanted to compare notes with his us counterparts.. he said that a few years ago, (i think about 2 years ago) the society cleaned out all the literature from every kingdom hall, particularly russell and rutherford books and anything prior to 1950. giving each hall a computer with the watchtower cd rom for them to use for research.
he wanted to know if the same was done in the states.
Most every Hall I have been here has had a fairly well-stocked library, some better than others of course. At one time I know the Kingdom Hall in Moorhead, MN was well-known for having a complete set of Watchtowers, all the way back. Not sure how true that was, and I don't know what happened when they built a new Hall there.
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apostasy in law.
international law.
article 18.2 bars coersion that would impair the right to have or adopt a belief...including use of threat, physical force or penal sanctions to compel believers to adhere to religious beliefs.... .
Its completely voluntary. No one can force you to go out in service. Nothing will be done if you decline to participate. There are probably tens or hundred of thousand "inactive" JWs.
Further, being a JW is completely voluntary. Anyone can leave at any time.
How's that for Devil's advocate? But the sad part is its all true. Jws are basically in their own self-contained prison, they can get out of this prison at any time, they just don't realize it.
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been away from the wts for 13 years and noticed at jwn many are mentioning its now okay for jw's to lie, if....... its for the right reasons.
like misleading the jw's and worldy people about district convention parking.
to raise monies for the wts.
The simple fact of the matter is the JWs have their own definition of lying, it is giving false information or withholding information from someone who is entitled to the information. The term they use for this is Theocratic Warfare. Try googling that term, you will find several discussions of the topic.
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